Urum and English/Contrastive Grammar - Revision history

Avykliu1 at 20:13, 11 May 2023

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Scasada1: /* (UUM ‣ ENG) Contrastive Grammar Evaluation */

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‎(UUM ‣ ENG) Contrastive Grammar Evaluation

Scasada1: /* Example 5 (Locative Case) */

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‎Example 5 (Locative Case)

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‎Example 5 (Locative Case)

Scasada1: /* Example 3 (Verb Negativity) */

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‎Example 3 (Verb Negativity)

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‎Example 3 (Verb Negativity)

Jwashin1: /* Example 2 (Verb Past-Tense) */

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‎Example 2 (Verb Past-Tense)

Jwashin1: /* Example 5 (Locative Case) */

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‎Example 5 (Locative Case)

Jwashin1: /* Example 4 (Ablative Case) */

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‎Example 4 (Ablative Case)

Jwashin1: /* Example 3 (Verb Negativity) */

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‎Example 3 (Verb Negativity)

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 == (UUM ‣ ENG) Contrastive Grammar Evaluation ==
 {{comment|Jonathan, I see your comments. Thank you for the feedback! I cannot work on addressing this right now (2 days left of finals), so perhaps I will revisit these corrections later during another academic year. Otherwise: hello to anyone viewing our wiki! -Scasada1}}
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 === Example 1 (Verb Pronoun Marking) ===
-In Urum, verbs are agglutinative. In order to translate correctly into English, we need to create a pronoun from the case of the verb.
+In Urum, verbs are agglutinative. In order to translate correctly into English, we need to choose an English pronoun based on the person/number tags of the verb in Urum.
 * {{transferTest|uum|eng|алйым|I find}}
-*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|ал{{tag|v}}{{tag|tv}}{{tag|pres}}{{tag|p1}}{{tag|sg}}|I{{tag|prn}}{{tag|subj}}{{tag|p1}}{{tag|m}}{{tag|sg}}find{{tag|vblex}}{{tag|pres}}}}
+*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|ал{{tag|v}}{{tag|tv}}{{tag|pres}}{{tag|p1}}{{tag|sg}}|I{{tag|prn}}{{tag|subj}}{{tag|p1}}{{tag|m}}{{tag|sg}} find{{tag|vblex}}{{tag|pres}}}}
 * {{transferTest|uum|eng|алйых|we find}}
-*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|ал{{tag|v}}{{tag|tv}}{{tag|pres}}{{tag|p1}}{{tag|pl}}|we{{tag|prn}}{{tag|subj}}{{tag|p1}}{{tag|mf}}{{tag|pl}}find{{tag|vblex}}{{tag|pres}}}}
+*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|ал{{tag|v}}{{tag|tv}}{{tag|pres}}{{tag|p1}}{{tag|pl}}|we{{tag|prn}}{{tag|subj}}{{tag|p1}}{{tag|mf}}{{tag|pl}} find{{tag|vblex}}{{tag|pres}}}}
 * {{transferTest|uum|eng|алый|he finds}}
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 * {{transferTest|uum|eng|алыйлар|they find}}
-*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|ал{{tag|v}}{{tag|tv}}{{tag|pres}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|pl}}|they{{tag|prn}}{{tag|subj}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|mf}}{{tag|pl}}find{{tag|vblex}}{{tag|pres}}}}
+*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|ал{{tag|v}}{{tag|tv}}{{tag|pres}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|pl}}|they{{tag|prn}}{{tag|subj}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|mf}}{{tag|pl}} find{{tag|vblex}}{{tag|pres}}}}
 === Example 2 (Verb Past-Tense) ===
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 * {{transferTest|uum|eng|булду|he found}}
-*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|бул{{tag|v}}{{tag|tv}}{{tag|past}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|sg}}|he{{tag|prn}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|m}}{{tag|sg}}find{{tag|vblex}}{{tag|past}}}}
+*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|бул{{tag|v}}{{tag|tv}}{{tag|past}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|sg}}|he{{tag|prn}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|m}}{{tag|sg}} find{{tag|vblex}}{{tag|past}}}}
 * {{transferTest|uum|eng|алды|he stayed}}
-*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|ал{{tag|v}}{{tag|tv}}{{tag|past}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|sg}}|he{{tag|prn}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|m}}{{tag|sg}}stay{{tag|vblex}}{{tag|past}}}}
+*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|ал{{tag|v}}{{tag|tv}}{{tag|past}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|sg}}|he{{tag|prn}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|m}}{{tag|sg}} stay{{tag|vblex}}{{tag|past}}}}
 * {{transferTest|uum|eng|кӧрдӱ|he saw}}
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 * {{transferTest|uum|eng|хойду|he put}}
-*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|хой{{tag|v}}{{tag|tv}}{{tag|past}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|sg}}|he{{tag|prn}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|m}}{{tag|sg}}put{{tag|vblex}}{{tag|past}}}}
+*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|хой{{tag|v}}{{tag|tv}}{{tag|past}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|sg}}|he{{tag|prn}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|m}}{{tag|sg}} put{{tag|vblex}}{{tag|past}}}}
 === Example 3 (Verb Negativity) ===
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 {{comment|Missing spaces as above. The description doesn't match the phenomenon. -JNW}}
-In Urum, verbs are agglutinative. In order to translate correctly into English, we need to create a preposition from the case of the verb.
+In Urum, nouns are agglutinative. In order to translate correctly into English, we need to choose a preposition ("from") if the noun is in Ablative case.
 * {{transferTest|uum|eng|кӧктэн|from sky}}
-*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|кӧк{{tag|n}}{{tag|abl}}|from{{tag|pr}}sky{{tag|n}}{{tag|sg}}}}
+*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|кӧк{{tag|n}}{{tag|abl}}|from{{tag|pr}} sky{{tag|n}}{{tag|sg}}}}
 * {{transferTest|uum|eng|базардан|from market}}
-*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|базар{{tag|n}}{{tag|abl}}|from{{tag|pr}}market{{tag|n}}{{tag|sg}}}}
+*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|базар{{tag|n}}{{tag|abl}}|from{{tag|pr}} market{{tag|n}}{{tag|sg}}}}
 * {{transferTest|uum|eng|завоттан|from factory}}
-*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|завот{{tag|n}}{{tag|abl}}|from{{tag|pr}}factory{{tag|n}}{{tag|sg}}}}
+*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|завот{{tag|n}}{{tag|abl}}|from{{tag|pr}} factory{{tag|n}}{{tag|sg}}}}
 * {{transferTest|uum|eng|кӧйдэн|from village}}
-*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|кӧй{{tag|n}}{{tag|abl}}|from{{tag|pr}}village{{tag|n}}{{tag|sg}}}}
+*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|кӧй{{tag|n}}{{tag|abl}}|from{{tag|pr}} village{{tag|n}}{{tag|sg}}}}
 === Example 5 (Locative Case) ===
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 {{comment|Missing spaces as above. The description doesn't match the phenomenon. -JNW}}
-In Urum, verbs are agglutinative. In order to translate correctly into English, we need to create a preposition from the case of the verb.
+In Urum, nouns are agglutinative. In order to translate correctly into English, we need to create a preposition ("in", "on" or "at") if the noun is in Locative case.
 * {{transferTest|uum|eng|бахчыда|in sky}}
-*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|бахчы{{tag|n}}{{tag|loc}}|in{{tag|pr}}sky{{tag|n}}{{tag|sg}}}}
+*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|бахчы{{tag|n}}{{tag|loc}}|in{{tag|pr}} sky{{tag|n}}{{tag|sg}}}}
 * {{transferTest|uum|eng|базарда|at market}}
-*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|базар{{tag|n}}{{tag|loc}}|at{{tag|pr}}market{{tag|n}}{{tag|sg}}}}
+*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|базар{{tag|n}}{{tag|loc}}|at{{tag|pr}} market{{tag|n}}{{tag|sg}}}}
 * {{transferTest|uum|eng|бахчыда|at factory}}
-*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|завот{{tag|n}}{{tag|loc}}|at{{tag|pr}}factory{{tag|n}}{{tag|sg}}}}
+*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|завот{{tag|n}}{{tag|loc}}|at{{tag|pr}} factory{{tag|n}}{{tag|sg}}}}
 * {{transferTest|uum|eng|кӧйдэ|at village}}
-*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|кӧй{{tag|n}}{{tag|loc}}|at{{tag|pr}}village{{tag|n}}{{tag|sg}}}}
+*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|кӧй{{tag|n}}{{tag|loc}}|at{{tag|pr}} village{{tag|n}}{{tag|sg}}}}

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	== (UUM ‣ ENG) Contrastive Grammar Evaluation ==		== (UUM ‣ ENG) Contrastive Grammar Evaluation ==
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		+	{{comment\|Jonathan, I see your comments. Thank you for the feedback! I cannot work on addressing this right now (2 days left of finals), so perhaps I will revisit these corrections later during another academic year. Otherwise: hello to anyone viewing our wiki! -Scasada1}}

	=== Example 1 (Verb Pronoun Marking) ===		=== Example 1 (Verb Pronoun Marking) ===

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	{{comment\|Missing spaces as above. The description doesn't match the phenomenon. -JNW}}		{{comment\|Missing spaces as above. The description doesn't match the phenomenon. -JNW}}
−	~~{{comment\|Understood. I cannot work on this right now, perhaps I will revisit these corrections later. Hello to anyone viewing our wiki! -Scasada1}}~~

	In Urum, verbs are agglutinative. In order to translate correctly into English, we need to create a preposition from the case of the verb.		In Urum, verbs are agglutinative. In order to translate correctly into English, we need to create a preposition from the case of the verb.

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	{{comment\|Missing spaces as above. The description doesn't match the phenomenon. -JNW}}		{{comment\|Missing spaces as above. The description doesn't match the phenomenon. -JNW}}
		+	{{comment\|Understood. I cannot work on this right now, perhaps I will revisit these corrections later. Hello to anyone viewing our wiki! -Scasada1}}

	In Urum, verbs are agglutinative. In order to translate correctly into English, we need to create a preposition from the case of the verb.		In Urum, verbs are agglutinative. In order to translate correctly into English, we need to create a preposition from the case of the verb.

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	=== Example 3 (Verb Negativity) ===		=== Example 3 (Verb Negativity) ===
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−	~~{{comment\|Missing spaces as above. -JNW}}~~

	In Urum, verbs are agglutinative. In order to translate correctly into English, we need to extract the negativity (in conjunction with past from the previous examples).		In Urum, verbs are agglutinative. In order to translate correctly into English, we need to extract the negativity (in conjunction with past from the previous examples).

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 * {{transferTest|uum|eng|булмады|he did not find}}
-*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|бул{{tag|v}}{{tag|tv}}{{tag|neg}}{{tag|past}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|sg}}|he{{tag|prn}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|m}}{{tag|sg}}did{{tag|vblex}}{{tag|past}}not{{tag|adv}} find{{tag|vblex}}{{tag|pres}}}}
+*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|бул{{tag|v}}{{tag|tv}}{{tag|neg}}{{tag|past}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|sg}}|he{{tag|prn}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|m}}{{tag|sg}} did{{tag|vblex}}{{tag|past}} not{{tag|adv}} find{{tag|vblex}}{{tag|pres}}}}
 * {{transferTest|uum|eng|алмады|he did not stay}}
-*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|ал{{tag|v}}{{tag|tv}}{{tag|neg}}{{tag|past}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|sg}}|he{{tag|prn}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|m}}{{tag|sg}}did{{tag|vblex}}{{tag|past}}not{{tag|adv}} stay{{tag|vblex}}{{tag|pres}}}}
+*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|ал{{tag|v}}{{tag|tv}}{{tag|neg}}{{tag|past}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|sg}}|he{{tag|prn}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|m}}{{tag|sg}} did{{tag|vblex}}{{tag|past}} not{{tag|adv}} stay{{tag|vblex}}{{tag|pres}}}}
 * {{transferTest|uum|eng|кӧрмеди|he did not see}}
-*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|кӧр{{tag|v}}{{tag|tv}}{{tag|neg}}{{tag|past}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|sg}}|he{{tag|prn}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|m}}{{tag|sg}}did{{tag|vblex}}{{tag|past}}not{{tag|adv}} see{{tag|vblex}}{{tag|pres}}}}
+*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|кӧр{{tag|v}}{{tag|tv}}{{tag|neg}}{{tag|past}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|sg}}|he{{tag|prn}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|m}}{{tag|sg}} did{{tag|vblex}}{{tag|past}} not{{tag|adv}} see{{tag|vblex}}{{tag|pres}}}}
 * {{transferTest|uum|eng|хоймады|he did not put}}
-*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|хой{{tag|v}}{{tag|tv}}{{tag|neg}}{{tag|past}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|sg}}|he{{tag|prn}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|m}}{{tag|sg}}did{{tag|vblex}}{{tag|past}}not{{tag|adv}} put{{tag|vblex}}{{tag|pres}}}}
+*: {{transferMorphTest|uum|eng|хой{{tag|v}}{{tag|tv}}{{tag|neg}}{{tag|past}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|sg}}|he{{tag|prn}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|m}}{{tag|sg}} did{{tag|vblex}}{{tag|past}} not{{tag|adv}} put{{tag|vblex}}{{tag|pres}}}}
 === Example 4 (Ablative Case) ===

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 === Example 2 (Verb Past-Tense) ===
-{{comment|There are spaces missing between the analyses.  Also, I'm not sure this is a real grammar point, since the tag just gets copied? -JNW}}
+{{comment|There are spaces missing between the analyses.  Also, I'm not sure this is a real grammar point, since the tag just gets copied?  If it isn't, see if you can get one more grammar point. -JNW}}
 In Urum, verbs are agglutinative. In order to translate correctly into English, we need to extract the past-tense tags/markers.

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	=== Example 5 (Locative Case) ===		=== Example 5 (Locative Case) ===
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		+	{{comment\|Missing spaces as above. The description doesn't match the phenomenon. -JNW}}

	In Urum, verbs are agglutinative. In order to translate correctly into English, we need to create a preposition from the case of the verb.		In Urum, verbs are agglutinative. In order to translate correctly into English, we need to create a preposition from the case of the verb.

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	=== Example 4 (Ablative Case) ===		=== Example 4 (Ablative Case) ===
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		+	{{comment\|Missing spaces as above. The description doesn't match the phenomenon. -JNW}}

	In Urum, verbs are agglutinative. In order to translate correctly into English, we need to create a preposition from the case of the verb.		In Urum, verbs are agglutinative. In order to translate correctly into English, we need to create a preposition from the case of the verb.