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*In Okinawan, there is something that can perhaps be considered a sentence-final particle.  There is no equivalent in Miyako.
 
*In Okinawan, there is something that can perhaps be considered a sentence-final particle.  There is no equivalent in Miyako.
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:* {{transferTest|ryu|mvi|しぇんしぇいたあし いくん|ならーすびーっみんかい いでぃい}}
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:* {{transferTest|ryu|mvi|しぇんしぇいたあし いくん|ならーすびーっみんかい いでぃー}}
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:*: {{transferMorphTest|ryu|mvi|しぇんしぇい{{tag|n}}{{tag|pl}}{{tag|all}} いくん{{tag|v}}{{tag|npst}}{{tag|sf}}|ならーすびーっみんかい{{tag|n}}{{tag|pl}}{{tag|all}} いでぃい{{tag|v}}{{tag|npst}}}}
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:*: {{transferMorphTest|ryu|mvi|しぇんしぇい{{tag|n}}{{tag|pl}}{{tag|all}} いくん{{tag|v}}{{tag|npst}}|ならーすびー{{tag|n}}{{tag|pl}}{{tag|all}} いでぃー{{tag|v}}{{tag|npst}}}}
  
 
*There is an accusative in Miyako but not in Okinawan.
 
*There is an accusative in Miyako but not in Okinawan.
 
:* {{transferTest|ryu|mvi|ぴいじゃあや んんじゃん|ひんじゃうどぅ みーたい}}
 
:* {{transferTest|ryu|mvi|ぴいじゃあや んんじゃん|ひんじゃうどぅ みーたい}}
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:*: {{transferMorphTest|ryu|mvi|ぴいじゃあ{{tag|n}}{{tag|top}} んんじゅん{{tag|v}}{{tag|pst}}{{tag|sf}}|ひんじゃうどぅ {{tag|n}}{{tag|acc}}{{tag|foc}} みーたい{{tag|v}}{{tag|pst}}}}
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:*: {{transferMorphTest|ryu|mvi|ぴいじゃあ{{tag|n}}{{tag|top}} んんじゅん{{tag|v}}{{tag|pst}}|ひんじゃ {{tag|n}}{{tag|acc}}{{tag|foc}} みー{{tag|v}}{{tag|pst}}}}
  
 
*It seems that pronouns (in particular, second person singular) are dropped more often in Miyako than in Okinawan.
 
*It seems that pronouns (in particular, second person singular) are dropped more often in Miyako than in Okinawan.
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*In Okinawan, progressive is expressed with a suffix on the verb.  In Miyako, a converb plus the continuous expresses the same idea.
 
*In Okinawan, progressive is expressed with a suffix on the verb.  In Miyako, a converb plus the continuous expresses the same idea.
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:* {{transferTest|ryu|mvi|あっきんじゃん|あいきー ゆー}}
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:* {{transferTest|ryu|mvi|あっちんじゃん|あいきー ゆー}}
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:*: {{transferMorphTest|ryu|mvi|あっくん{{tag|v}}{{tag|prog}}{{tag|sf}}|あいきー {{tag|v}}{{tag|cvb_abs}} ゆー{{tag|vaux}}}}
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:*: {{transferMorphTest|ryu|mvi|あっちゅん{{tag|v}}{{tag|prog}}|あいきー {{tag|v}}{{tag|cvb_abs}} ゆー{{tag|vaux}}}}
  
 
*In Miyako, adjectives must either be nominalized or attached to the front of a noun. In Okinawan, either an adverbializer or a verbializer is added to an adjective stem, depending on whether or not it is to be negated.
 
*In Miyako, adjectives must either be nominalized or attached to the front of a noun. In Okinawan, either an adverbializer or a verbializer is added to an adjective stem, depending on whether or not it is to be negated.
 
:* {{transferTest|ryu|mvi|うりや たかはん|うらあ たかだいむぬ}}
 
:* {{transferTest|ryu|mvi|うりや たかはん|うらあ たかだいむぬ}}
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:*: {{transferMorphTest|ryu|mvi|うり{{tag|prn}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|sg}}{{tag|top}} たかさん{{tag|adj}}{{tag|vz}}{{tag|sf}}|うらあ{{tag|prn}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|sg}}{{tag|top1}} たかだいむぬ{{tag|adj}}{{tag|nz}} }}
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:*: {{transferMorphTest|ryu|mvi|うり{{tag|prn}}{{tag|dem}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|sg}}{{tag|top}} たかさん{{tag|adj}}{{tag|vz}}|うら{{tag|prn}}{{tag|dem}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|sg}}{{tag|top1}} たかだい{{tag|adj}}{{tag|nz}} }}
  
 
==mvi-ryu tests==
 
==mvi-ryu tests==
  
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* {{transferTest|mvi|ryu|ならーすびーっみんかい いでぃい|しぇんしぇいたあし いくん}}
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:* {{transferTest|mvi|ryu|ならーすびーっみんかい いでぃー|しぇんしぇいたあし いくん}}
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*: {{transferMorphTest|mvi|ryu|ならーすびーっみんかい{{tag|n}}{{tag|pl}}{{tag|all}} いでぃい{{tag|v}}{{tag|npst}}|しぇんしぇいたあし{{tag|n}}{{tag|pl}}{{tag|all}} いくん{{tag|v}}{{tag|npst}}{{tag|sf}}}}
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:*: {{transferMorphTest|mvi|ryu|ならーすびー{{tag|n}}{{tag|pl}}{{tag|all}} いでぃー{{tag|v}}{{tag|npst}}|しぇんしぇい{{tag|n}}{{tag|pl}}{{tag|all}} いくん{{tag|v}}{{tag|npst}}}}
  
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* {{transferTest|mvi|ryu|ひんじゃうどぅ みーたい|ぴいじゃあや んんじゃん}}
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:* {{transferTest|mvi|ryu|ひんじゃうどぅ みーたい|ぴいじゃあや んんじゃん}}
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*: {{transferMorphTest|mvi|ryu|ひんじゃうどぅ {{tag|n}}{{tag|acc}}{{tag|foc}} みーたい{{tag|v}}{{tag|pst}}|ぴいじゃあや{{tag|n}}{{tag|foc}} んんじゃん{{tag|v}}{{tag|pst}}{{tag|sf}}}}
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:*: {{transferMorphTest|mvi|ryu|ひんじゃ {{tag|n}}{{tag|acc}}{{tag|foc}} みー{{tag|v}}{{tag|pst}}|ぴいじゃあ{{tag|n}}{{tag|top}} んんじゅん{{tag|v}}{{tag|pst}}}}
  
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* {{transferTest|mvi|ryu|かき|やあが かき|}}
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:* {{transferTest|mvi|ryu|かき|やあが かき}}
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*: {{transferMorphTest|mvi|ryu|かき{{tag|v}}{{tag|imp}}|やあが{{tag|pprn}}{{tag|p2}}{{tag|sg}}{{tag|nom}} かき{{tag|v}}{{tag|imp}}}}
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:*: {{transferMorphTest|mvi|ryu|かき{{tag|v}}{{tag|imp}}|やあ{{tag|prn}}{{tag|p2}}{{tag|sg}}{{tag|nom}} かくん{{tag|v}}{{tag|imp}}}}
  
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* {{transferTest|mvi|ryu|あいきー ゆー|あっきんじゃん|}}
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:* {{transferTest|mvi|ryu|あいきー ゆー|あっきんじゃん}}
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*: {{transferMorphTest|mvi|ryu|あいきー {{tag|v}}{{tag|cvb_abs}} ゆー{{tag|vaux}}|あっくん{{tag|v}}{{tag|prog}}{{tag|sf}}}}
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:*: {{transferMorphTest|mvi|ryu|あいきー {{tag|v}}{{tag|cvb_abs}} ゆー{{tag|vaux}}|あっくん{{tag|v}}{{tag|prog}}}}
  
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* {{transferTest|mvi|ryu|うらあ たかだいむぬ|うりや たかはん|}}
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:* {{transferTest|mvi|ryu|うらあ たかだいむぬ|うりや たかはん}}
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*: {{transferMorphTest|mvi|ryu|うらあ{{tag|pprn}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|sg}}{{tag|top1}} たかだいむぬ{{tag|adj}}{{tag|nz}}|うりや{{tag|pprn}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|sg}}{{tag|top}} たかはん{{tag|adj}}{{tag|vz}}{{tag|sf}}}}
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:*: {{transferMorphTest|mvi|ryu|うら{{tag|prn}}{{tag|dem}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|sg}}{{tag|top1}} たかだい{{tag|adj}}{{tag|nz}}|うり{{tag|prn}}{{tag|dem}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|sg}}{{tag|top}} たかさん{{tag|adj}}{{tag|vz}}}}
  
 
[[Category:Sp17_ContrastiveGrammars]]
 
[[Category:Sp17_ContrastiveGrammars]]

Latest revision as of 15:35, 20 April 2017

Differences between Okinawan and Miyako

  • There are three locatives in Okinawan and one (which is also the dative) in Miyako.
  • There are two allatives in Miyako and one in Okinawan.
  • There is an associative in Okinawan but not in Miyako.
  • Medial verbs appear frequently in Okinawan (indicating simultaneous or sequential verbs), but do not seem to appear in Ikema Miyako (though they do in Irabu).
  • When discussing when things happen (e.g. I went when I was 10), Miyako has a couple of examples that have a word meaning time, but Okinawan does not seem to have anything equivalent.

ryu-mvi tests

  • In Okinawan, there is something that can perhaps be considered a sentence-final particle. There is no equivalent in Miyako.
  • (ryu) しぇんしぇいたあし いくん → (mvi) ならーすびーっみんかい いでぃー
    (ryu) しぇんしぇい<n><pl><all> いくん<v><npst> → (mvi) ならーすびー<n><pl><all> いでぃー<v><npst>
  • There is an accusative in Miyako but not in Okinawan.
  • (ryu) ぴいじゃあや んんじゃん → (mvi) ひんじゃうどぅ みーたい
    (ryu) ぴいじゃあ<n><top> んんじゅん<v><pst> → (mvi) ひんじゃ <n><acc><foc> みー<v><pst>
  • It seems that pronouns (in particular, second person singular) are dropped more often in Miyako than in Okinawan.
  • (ryu) やあが かき → (mvi) かき
    (ryu) やあ<prn><p2><sg><nom> かくん<v><imp> → (mvi) かき<v><imp>
  • In Okinawan, progressive is expressed with a suffix on the verb. In Miyako, a converb plus the continuous expresses the same idea.
  • (ryu) あっちんじゃん → (mvi) あいきー ゆー
    (ryu) あっちゅん<v><prog> → (mvi) あいきー <v><cvb_abs> ゆー<vaux>
  • In Miyako, adjectives must either be nominalized or attached to the front of a noun. In Okinawan, either an adverbializer or a verbializer is added to an adjective stem, depending on whether or not it is to be negated.
  • (ryu) うりや たかはん → (mvi) うらあ たかだいむぬ
    (ryu) うり<prn><dem><p3><sg><top> たかさん<adj><vz> → (mvi) うら<prn><dem><p3><sg><top1> たかだい<adj><nz>

mvi-ryu tests

  • (mvi) ならーすびーっみんかい いでぃー → (ryu) しぇんしぇいたあし いくん
    (mvi) ならーすびー<n><pl><all> いでぃー<v><npst> → (ryu) しぇんしぇい<n><pl><all> いくん<v><npst>
  • (mvi) ひんじゃうどぅ みーたい → (ryu) ぴいじゃあや んんじゃん
    (mvi) ひんじゃ <n><acc><foc> みー<v><pst> → (ryu) ぴいじゃあ<n><top> んんじゅん<v><pst>
  • (mvi) かき → (ryu) やあが かき
    (mvi) かき<v><imp> → (ryu) やあ<prn><p2><sg><nom> かくん<v><imp>
  • (mvi) あいきー ゆー → (ryu) あっきんじゃん
    (mvi) あいきー <v><cvb_abs> ゆー<vaux> → (ryu) あっくん<v><prog>
  • (mvi) うらあ たかだいむぬ → (ryu) うりや たかはん
    (mvi) うら<prn><dem><p3><sg><top1> たかだい<adj><nz> → (ryu) うり<prn><dem><p3><sg><top> たかさん<adj><vz>
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