Difference between revisions of "Okinawan and Miyako/Contrastive Grammar"

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*There is an associative in Okinawan but not in Miyako.
 
*There is an associative in Okinawan but not in Miyako.
 
*Medial verbs appear frequently in Okinawan (indicating simultaneous or sequential verbs), but do not seem to appear in Ikema Miyako (though they do in Irabu).
 
*Medial verbs appear frequently in Okinawan (indicating simultaneous or sequential verbs), but do not seem to appear in Ikema Miyako (though they do in Irabu).
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*It seems that pronouns (in particular, second person singular) are dropped more often in Miyako than in Okinawan.
 
 
*When discussing when things happen (e.g. I went when I was 10), Miyako has a couple of examples that have a word meaning time, but Okinawan does not seem to have anything equivalent.
 
*When discussing when things happen (e.g. I went when I was 10), Miyako has a couple of examples that have a word meaning time, but Okinawan does not seem to have anything equivalent.
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*In Okinawan, progressive is expressed with a suffix on the verb.  In Miyako, a converb plus the continuous expresses the same idea.
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*In Miyako, adjectives must either be nominalized or attached to the front of a noun. In Okinawan, either an adverbializer or a verbializer is added to an adjective stem, depending on whether it is to be negated or not.
 
  
 
==ryu-mvi tests==
 
==ryu-mvi tests==
  
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* {{transferTest|ryu|mvi|しぇんしぇいたあし いくん|ならーすびーっみんかい いでぃい}}
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*In Okinawan, there is something that can perhaps be considered a sentence-final particle.  There is no equivalent in Miyako.
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*: {{transferMorphTest|ryu|mvi|しぇんしぇいたあし{{tag|n}}{{tag|pl}}{{tag|all}} いくん{{tag|v}}{{tag|npst}}{{tag|sf}}|ならーすびーっみんかい{{tag|n}}{{tag|pl}}{{tag|all}} いでぃい{{tag|v}}{{tag|npst}}}}
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:* {{transferTest|ryu|mvi|しぇんしぇいたあし いくん|ならーすびーっみんかい いでぃい}}
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:*: {{transferMorphTest|ryu|mvi|しぇんしぇいたあし{{tag|n}}{{tag|pl}}{{tag|all}} いくん{{tag|v}}{{tag|npst}}{{tag|sf}}|ならーすびーっみんかい{{tag|n}}{{tag|pl}}{{tag|all}} いでぃい{{tag|v}}{{tag|npst}}}}
  
 
*There is an accusative in Miyako but not in Okinawan.
 
*There is an accusative in Miyako but not in Okinawan.
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:*: {{transferMorphTest|ryu|mvi|ぴいじゃあや{{tag|n}}{{tag|foc}} んんじゃん{{tag|v}}{{tag|pst}}{{tag|sf}}|ひんじゃうどぅ {{tag|n}}{{tag|acc}}{{tag|foc}} みーたい{{tag|v}}{{tag|pst}}}}
 
:*: {{transferMorphTest|ryu|mvi|ぴいじゃあや{{tag|n}}{{tag|foc}} んんじゃん{{tag|v}}{{tag|pst}}{{tag|sf}}|ひんじゃうどぅ {{tag|n}}{{tag|acc}}{{tag|foc}} みーたい{{tag|v}}{{tag|pst}}}}
  
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* {{transferTest|ryu|mvi|やあが かき|かきる}}
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*It seems that pronouns (in particular, second person singular) are dropped more often in Miyako than in Okinawan.
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*: {{transferMorphTest|ryu|mvi|やあが{{tag|pprn}}{{tag|p2}}{{tag|sg}}{{tag|nom}} かき{{tag|v}}{{tag|imp}}|かきる{{tag|v}}{{tag|imp}}}}
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:* {{transferTest|ryu|mvi|やあが かき|かきる}}
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:*: {{transferMorphTest|ryu|mvi|やあが{{tag|pprn}}{{tag|p2}}{{tag|sg}}{{tag|nom}} かき{{tag|v}}{{tag|imp}}|かきる{{tag|v}}{{tag|imp}}}}
  
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* {{transferTest|ryu|mvi|あっきんじゃん|あいきー ゆー}}
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*In Okinawan, progressive is expressed with a suffix on the verb.  In Miyako, a converb plus the continuous expresses the same idea.
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*: {{transferMorphTest|ryu|mvi|あっくん{{tag|v}}{{tag|prog}}{{tag|sf}}|あいきー {{tag|v}}{{tag|cvb_abs}} ゆー{{tag|vaux}}}}
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:* {{transferTest|ryu|mvi|あっきんじゃん|あいきー ゆー}}
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:*: {{transferMorphTest|ryu|mvi|あっくん{{tag|v}}{{tag|prog}}{{tag|sf}}|あいきー {{tag|v}}{{tag|cvb_abs}} ゆー{{tag|vaux}}}}
  
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* {{transferTest|ryu|mvi|うりや たかはん|うらあ たかだいむぬ}}
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*In Miyako, adjectives must either be nominalized or attached to the front of a noun. In Okinawan, either an adverbializer or a verbializer is added to an adjective stem, depending on whether or not it is to be negated.
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*: {{transferMorphTest|ryu|mvi|うりや{{tag|pprn}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|sg}}{{tag|top}} たかはん{{tag|adj}}{{tag|vz}}{{tag|sf}}|うらあ{{tag|pprn}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|sg}}{{tag|top1}} たかだいむぬ{{tag|adj}}{{tag|nz}} }}
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:* {{transferTest|ryu|mvi|うりや たかはん|うらあ たかだいむぬ}}
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:*: {{transferMorphTest|ryu|mvi|うりや{{tag|pprn}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|sg}}{{tag|top}} たかはん{{tag|adj}}{{tag|vz}}{{tag|sf}}|うらあ{{tag|pprn}}{{tag|p3}}{{tag|sg}}{{tag|top1}} たかだいむぬ{{tag|adj}}{{tag|nz}} }}
  
 
==mvi-ryu tests==
 
==mvi-ryu tests==

Revision as of 03:54, 5 April 2017

Differences between Okinawan and Miyako

  • There are three locatives in Okinawan and one in Miyako.
  • There are two allatives in Miyako and one in Okinawan.
  • There is an associative in Okinawan but not in Miyako.
  • Medial verbs appear frequently in Okinawan (indicating simultaneous or sequential verbs), but do not seem to appear in Ikema Miyako (though they do in Irabu).
  • When discussing when things happen (e.g. I went when I was 10), Miyako has a couple of examples that have a word meaning time, but Okinawan does not seem to have anything equivalent.


ryu-mvi tests

  • In Okinawan, there is something that can perhaps be considered a sentence-final particle. There is no equivalent in Miyako.
  • (ryu) しぇんしぇいたあし いくん → (mvi) ならーすびーっみんかい いでぃい
    (ryu) しぇんしぇいたあし<n><pl><all> いくん<v><npst><sf> → (mvi) ならーすびーっみんかい<n><pl><all> いでぃい<v><npst>
  • There is an accusative in Miyako but not in Okinawan.
  • (ryu) ぴいじゃあや んんじゃん → (mvi) ひんじゃうどぅ みーたい
    (ryu) ぴいじゃあや<n><foc> んんじゃん<v><pst><sf> → (mvi) ひんじゃうどぅ <n><acc><foc> みーたい<v><pst>
  • It seems that pronouns (in particular, second person singular) are dropped more often in Miyako than in Okinawan.
  • (ryu) やあが かき → (mvi) かきる
    (ryu) やあが<pprn><p2><sg><nom> かき<v><imp> → (mvi) かきる<v><imp>
  • In Okinawan, progressive is expressed with a suffix on the verb. In Miyako, a converb plus the continuous expresses the same idea.
  • (ryu) あっきんじゃん → (mvi) あいきー ゆー
    (ryu) あっくん<v><prog><sf> → (mvi) あいきー <v><cvb_abs> ゆー<vaux>
  • In Miyako, adjectives must either be nominalized or attached to the front of a noun. In Okinawan, either an adverbializer or a verbializer is added to an adjective stem, depending on whether or not it is to be negated.
  • (ryu) うりや たかはん → (mvi) うらあ たかだいむぬ
    (ryu) うりや<pprn><p3><sg><top> たかはん<adj><vz><sf> → (mvi) うらあ<pprn><p3><sg><top1> たかだいむぬ<adj><nz>

mvi-ryu tests

  • (mvi) ならーすびーっみんかい いでぃい → (ryu) しぇんしぇいたあし いくん
    (mvi) ならーすびーっみんかい<n><pl><all> いでぃい<v><npst> → (ryu) しぇんしぇいたあし<n><pl><all> いくん<v><npst><sf>
  • (mvi) ひんじゃうどぅ みーたい → (ryu) ぴいじゃあや んんじゃん
    (mvi) ひんじゃうどぅ <n><acc><foc> みーたい<v><pst> → (ryu) ぴいじゃあや<n><foc> んんじゃん<v><pst><sf>
  • (mvi) かきる → (ryu) やあが かき
    (mvi) かきる<v><imp> → (ryu) やあが<pprn><p2><sg><nom> かき<v><imp>
  • (mvi) あいきー ゆー → (ryu) あっきんじゃん
    (mvi) あいきー <v><cvb_abs> ゆー<vaux> → (ryu) あっくん<v><prog><sf>
  • (mvi) うらあ たかだいむぬ → (ryu) うりや たかはん
    (mvi) うらあ<pprn><p3><sg><top1> たかだいむぬ<adj><nz> → (ryu) うりや<pprn><p3><sg><top> たかはん<adj><vz><sf>
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